Looking for a melee weapon - Guild Wars Forums

cagan · Sep 21, 2005, 01:46 PM // 13:46

I feel like making a illusionary weapon mesmer for PvE, and i could swear that at some point in the past i've had my hands on a sword with the attribute '+33% attack speed, -67% damage', which would do me well, but unless i'm insane, i can't find it anymore, it may have been a quest reward.

Can find ranged weapons with it, but no melee, so, i'm either insane, they've been removed at some point, or my searching skills aren't what they once were.

Any enlightenment would be appreciated.

Gustav Gloomp · Sep 21, 2005, 01:55 PM // 13:55

yeh someone enlighten this guy coz ive never heard of a sword that givs 33% attack speed and -67% damage

Mandy Memory · Sep 21, 2005, 02:13 PM // 14:13

in beta ive seen 33% faster attack -1 en regen or something like that

havent seen anything like that since beta

ayb · Sep 21, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

-67% damage would be a waste of time for the devs to put in the game in the first place

The Unknown Enemy · Sep 21, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28

I don't think he's meaning to refer to a weapon, but instead a warrior skill. I think the name of it is flurry, but it increases attack speed, yet reduces your damage. Other than that, I have yet to seen a weapon that has reduced damage...

Zenny · Sep 21, 2005, 05:31 PM // 17:31

I've Never seen any weapon with a +33% speed modifier or a - damage mod. I'd love to see if these even exist currently. My guess was they were in the beta at some point like someone mentioned, but obviously got took out.

huh · Sep 21, 2005, 05:46 PM // 17:46

I have seen this weapon before.
And no, it wasn't during beta-testing since I've only played this game a couple of months.
Its a quest reward item if I'm not mistaken.
Unfortunately, I can't remember which quest was it.

cagan · Sep 21, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

I'm not after a warrior skill.

There ARE weapons with this mod currently in the game, for 1 example, walk just outside serenity temple, and talk to the collector there, he offers a bow with the attribute.

I know there is a cane with it as well i found in my searching yesterday. Can't recall where now though, but it exists ... somewhere in the old ascalon region.

Because of how it might interact with IW it makes some sense to me i could be insane, but my brain is insisting that i've had a sword with the mod before, and i wasn't around during beta so it couldn't have been that.

glockjs · Sep 21, 2005, 11:32 PM // 23:32

so if it did exist....and flurry stacked ontop of it.... x.O

cagan · Sep 21, 2005, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Indeed, 'twould be a nice combination.

I want it because i have no intention of being a warrior, so i won't have flurry, but both would be a nifty sort of thing.

The Unknown Enemy · Sep 22, 2005, 12:14 AM // 00:14

Flurry and increased attack speed? *hides*

Kamatsu · Sep 22, 2005, 01:29 AM // 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by cagan

There ARE weapons with this mod currently in the game, for 1 example, walk just outside serenity temple, and talk to the collector there, he offers a bow with the attribute.

That bow has a -'ve attack speed mod on it.. not quite what your talking about

In fact he offer's both a Cane & a Bow.. both are +33% damage, -67% attack speed. So yeah, go grab those for uber fast attacks

I don't believe I've ever seen a weapon with +33% attack speed bonus on it, +33% damage sure.. but not attack speed bonus. You also have to note that ANet have changed the collectors - they have removed some as well as changing what each collector offers.

Like the cllector outside Sardalec Sanitorium used to offer a Diessa Shocking Flatbow, 9-13 damage, 15>50 (iirc), +5 energy.. it's now a 11-18 damage, 15>50 & 10/10 Sundering bow

cagan · Sep 22, 2005, 02:33 AM // 02:33

ah, wrong way round .. so it is. Useless to me then
Insanity wins out.

glockjs · Sep 22, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45

i wouldnt say that it doesnt exist. i know for a fact i ran into a collector with a staff that had:

-10% damage
-10% damage
+10% attack speed

it was in a lower level area and it was a staff. but who's to say there aren't other weapons out there similar that have high %'s on them?

cagan · Sep 22, 2005, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Ah yeh, the nice fire wand outside of nolani, indeed ... +10% attack speed. Still, wouldn't surprise me at this point if its not on any melee weapons.

Kamatsu · Sep 22, 2005, 08:49 AM // 08:49

oh yeah.. really great Fire Wand.. NOT

Sure it is +10% atatck speed... but it also does 10% less damage and gives you a 10% chance to miss every time you attack.. pfft! and with a base damage of 4-7... yer not going to be doing much damage with it! although the +5 energy on it is nice for a spell-slinging elementalist... thats the only reason I'd consider that wand.. for the energy..

cagan · Sep 22, 2005, 08:55 AM // 08:55

Its nice currently purely for the +5 energy. Good for any class.

Not all classes care about the damage aspect.

And if you can't aquire a nice +5 energy max damage wand .. then this is a nice, cheap substitute until that time.

Kamatsu · Sep 22, 2005, 09:23 AM // 09:23

Cagan - I agree about the not caring about the damage aspect. iirc I used that particular fire wand on my elementalist for a time because that +5 energy was a great help. Heh, and heck.. I might just grab if for another character i'm twiddling around with.. that bonus energy could help out.. heh

Actually, don't know why I bothered pointing out the bad damage on it since it's completely irrelevant to a IW mesmer.. LOL I'll keep an eye out for any +attack speed weapons for you.. you'll want them on swords or axes though.. but problem is I'm not sure if you can find any sword/axe with a +attack speed mod on it...

A NERD1989 · Sep 22, 2005, 09:36 AM // 09:36

man you guys are excited by fake swords

cagan · Sep 22, 2005, 09:45 AM // 09:45

eh? .. what do you mean fake swords? Right now there doesn't seem to be anything definitive suggesting they don't exist, they probably don't, but curiosity and desire is enough for now.

Kamatsu: *nod* would definately need to be a sword or a axe, noone knowing of ones existence doesn't hold out much hope, but ah well, was well worth a try even if all else fails.

Sep 21, 2005, 01:46 PM // 13:46	#1
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	Looking for a melee weapon I feel like making a illusionary weapon mesmer for PvE, and i could swear that at some point in the past i've had my hands on a sword with the attribute '+33% attack speed, -67% damage', which would do me well, but unless i'm insane, i can't find it anymore, it may have been a quest reward. Can find ranged weapons with it, but no melee, so, i'm either insane, they've been removed at some point, or my searching skills aren't what they once were. Any enlightenment would be appreciated.

Sep 21, 2005, 01:55 PM // 13:55	#2
Gustav Gloomp Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia	yeh someone enlighten this guy coz ive never heard of a sword that givs 33% attack speed and -67% damage

Sep 21, 2005, 02:13 PM // 14:13	#3
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	in beta ive seen 33% faster attack -1 en regen or something like that havent seen anything like that since beta

Sep 21, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24	#4
ayb Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: WTS SOUL PST Guild: Order of the Fly Profession: Mo/R	-67% damage would be a waste of time for the devs to put in the game in the first place

Sep 21, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28	#5
The Unknown Enemy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Umm..No response (stalkers, gotta hate them) Guild: Synful Desire [SD] Profession: E/Me	I don't think he's meaning to refer to a weapon, but instead a warrior skill. I think the name of it is flurry, but it increases attack speed, yet reduces your damage. Other than that, I have yet to seen a weapon that has reduced damage...

Sep 21, 2005, 05:31 PM // 17:31	#6
Zenny Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Moa Birds [MB] Profession: Mo/N	I've Never seen any weapon with a +33% speed modifier or a - damage mod. I'd love to see if these even exist currently. My guess was they were in the beta at some point like someone mentioned, but obviously got took out.

Sep 21, 2005, 05:46 PM // 17:46	#7
huh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Hou Lan Geng [HLG]	I have seen this weapon before. And no, it wasn't during beta-testing since I've only played this game a couple of months. Its a quest reward item if I'm not mistaken. Unfortunately, I can't remember which quest was it.

Sep 21, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08	#8
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	I'm not after a warrior skill. There ARE weapons with this mod currently in the game, for 1 example, walk just outside serenity temple, and talk to the collector there, he offers a bow with the attribute. I know there is a cane with it as well i found in my searching yesterday. Can't recall where now though, but it exists ... somewhere in the old ascalon region. Because of how it might interact with IW it makes some sense to me i could be insane, but my brain is insisting that i've had a sword with the mod before, and i wasn't around during beta so it couldn't have been that.

Sep 21, 2005, 11:32 PM // 23:32	#9
glockjs Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005	so if it did exist....and flurry stacked ontop of it.... x.O

Sep 21, 2005, 11:36 PM // 23:36	#10
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	Indeed, 'twould be a nice combination. I want it because i have no intention of being a warrior, so i won't have flurry, but both would be a nifty sort of thing.

Sep 22, 2005, 12:14 AM // 00:14	#11
The Unknown Enemy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Umm..No response (stalkers, gotta hate them) Guild: Synful Desire [SD] Profession: E/Me	Flurry and increased attack speed? hides

Sep 22, 2005, 02:33 AM // 02:33	#13
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	ah, wrong way round .. so it is. Useless to me then Insanity wins out.

Sep 22, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#14
glockjs Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005	i wouldnt say that it doesnt exist. i know for a fact i ran into a collector with a staff that had: -10% damage -10% damage +10% attack speed it was in a lower level area and it was a staff. but who's to say there aren't other weapons out there similar that have high %'s on them?

Sep 22, 2005, 06:23 AM // 06:23	#15
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	Ah yeh, the nice fire wand outside of nolani, indeed ... +10% attack speed. Still, wouldn't surprise me at this point if its not on any melee weapons.

Sep 22, 2005, 08:49 AM // 08:49	#16
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	oh yeah.. really great Fire Wand.. NOT Sure it is +10% atatck speed... but it also does 10% less damage and gives you a 10% chance to miss every time you attack.. pfft! and with a base damage of 4-7... yer not going to be doing much damage with it! although the +5 energy on it is nice for a spell-slinging elementalist... thats the only reason I'd consider that wand.. for the energy..

Sep 22, 2005, 08:55 AM // 08:55	#17
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	Its nice currently purely for the +5 energy. Good for any class. Not all classes care about the damage aspect. And if you can't aquire a nice +5 energy max damage wand .. then this is a nice, cheap substitute until that time.

Sep 22, 2005, 09:23 AM // 09:23	#18
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	Cagan - I agree about the not caring about the damage aspect. iirc I used that particular fire wand on my elementalist for a time because that +5 energy was a great help. Heh, and heck.. I might just grab if for another character i'm twiddling around with.. that bonus energy could help out.. heh Actually, don't know why I bothered pointing out the bad damage on it since it's completely irrelevant to a IW mesmer.. LOL I'll keep an eye out for any +attack speed weapons for you.. you'll want them on swords or axes though.. but problem is I'm not sure if you can find any sword/axe with a +attack speed mod on it...

Sep 22, 2005, 09:36 AM // 09:36	#19
A NERD1989 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Elite Black Ops Profession: W/Mo	man you guys are excited by fake swords

Sep 22, 2005, 09:45 AM // 09:45	#20
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	eh? .. what do you mean fake swords? Right now there doesn't seem to be anything definitive suggesting they don't exist, they probably don't, but curiosity and desire is enough for now. Kamatsu: nod would definately need to be a sword or a axe, noone knowing of ones existence doesn't hold out much hope, but ah well, was well worth a try even if all else fails.